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How to Prepare for College Baseball: What Coaches Really Look For

Send us a text What happens when college baseball recruits finally arrive on campus? Are coaches getting the players they thought they recruited, or do they discover someone entirely different? Brian Warning, former college recruiting coordinator at Thiel and Lake Erie College, pulls back the curtain on the critical summer period before college baseball and how it separates future contributors from those who'll struggle to make the team. With candid insights gained from years evaluating tale...

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What happens when college baseball recruits finally arrive on campus? Are coaches getting the players they thought they recruited, or do they discover someone entirely different?

Brian Warning, former college recruiting coordinator at Thiel and Lake Erie College, pulls back the curtain on the critical summer period before college baseball and how it separates future contributors from those who'll struggle to make the team. With candid insights gained from years evaluating talent, Warning explains how coaches immediately recognize which players dedicated their summer to preparation and which ones chose partying over progress.

"The summer is the longest window you have to change your game," Warning emphasizes, pointing to those crucial 15-16 weeks between high school graduation and college arrival. Players who utilize this time properly show up physically transformed, baseball-ready, and mentally prepared for the challenges ahead. Those who waste it often spend their first college season desperately trying to catch up.

Warning also addresses the underestimated challenges of transitioning to college baseball: the elevated competition level, the complex mental demands, and the highly structured lifestyle. For players seeking recruitment, he offers three practical strategies: get an honest evaluation of your skill level, personalize your outreach to coaches, and consistently perform as "the best guy on the field" when opportunities arise.

Whether you're a high school player dreaming of college baseball, a parent helping navigate the recruiting landscape, or a coach preparing athletes for the next level, this episode provides invaluable perspective on what truly matters in the transition to collegiate play. Subscribe now and check out new episodes every Wednesday featuring conversations with the best baseball coaches across the country.


00:00:00
College Preparation Reality Check

00:09:56
Summer Development Makes the Difference

00:17:26
The Weight Room Advantage

00:22:01
High School to College Transition
00:30:06
Smart Recruiting Strategies

00:34:02
Coach Warning's Coaching Philosophy

00:39:45
Influence of a Coaching Father


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Chapters

00:00 - College Preparation Reality Check

09:56 - Summer Development Makes the Difference

17:26 - The Weight Room Advantage

22:01 - High School to College Transition

30:06 - Smart Recruiting Strategies

34:02 - Coach Warning's Coaching Philosophy

39:45 - Influence of a Coaching Father

Transcript
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Today on Baseball Coaches Unplugged.

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Are college coaches getting the player they thought they recruited?

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Did they take care of their bodies?

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Did they work on their game and compete at the highest level and hit the weight room over the summer, or did they do the opposite and spend too much time partying?

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Former college recruiting coordinator at Teal and Lake Erie College, brian Warning.

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Coordinator at Teal and Lake Erie College.

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Brian Warning has seen what happens when players commit to being prepared for college baseball and what takes place when they don't.

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Next on Baseball Coaches Unplugged.

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Welcome to Baseball Coaches Unplugged with Coach Ken Carpenter, presented by Athlete One.

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I'm Coach Ken Carpenter and I'm excited to talk to Brian Boring today, warning today about what he expected from players before they arrived on campus and how they can get themselves ready to become a college baseball player.

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Now let's get to my interview with former college recruiting coordinator, brian Warning.

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Coach, thanks for taking time to be on Baseball Coaches Unplugged.

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I appreciate you having me Coach.

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You caught my attention.

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You know we follow each other on X and you put out a thread that I think could be very helpful to a lot of people players, parents, high school coaches and you know it was a strong statement.

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You said the summer is the longest window you have to change your game and what are the biggest signs of a player who has used or wasted that time?

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Oh boy, they show up pretty quickly.

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You know, it was really kind of weird.

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I was sitting, I was thinking about it and you see a lot of content on x and other places and social media and it always seems like we're talking to a group.

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Um, you know, you're talking to your sophomores.

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They're going to be juniors.

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You know here's what you should be doing to get ready and here's what you should be doing the summer, before your senior year.

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So you get recruited.

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Well, once you get recruited, it seems like we stopped talking about those guys.

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Right, they still need guidance.

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They need as much guidance as anybody else, and I started thinking you know it's almost August here what are some things that they could be doing to make their life a little bit easier or at least feel a little bit more prepared, cause, um, I remember when I moved into school you know I wasn't across the country but I was three and a half hours away from home and didn't know anybody and um trying to deal with that transition, plus just the transition of being a college athlete, and what are some things that you can do to help out?

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But, to kind of answer your question, I thought about it and I thought about the calendar and be honest, I thought about it more from a Division III perspective because that's where a majority of my career was as a player, as a coach, and obviously Division II and Division I, just as staff, you have more time with your players.

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You're able to run individuals and you have more time.

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You have just more practices in general and really, really, between the end of your, between the end of your fall season whenever your fall season is to to winter break is about seven or eight weeks.

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In most places you have about seven or eight weeks when the season gets back up and going again before you play a game.

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Some places you have less than that, you know.

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So that summer period, from when school gets out in late May to now is 15, 16 weeks and you want to see players and you want to see athletes take that time and utilize it wisely.

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Like you know, you would see guys or recruit guys at the end of the year, like just physically, like seeing the body changes like, um, did it look like this guy went to the weight room?

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Um, you know.

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Did it look like this guy ate well?

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Did it look like he took care of his body, like when he checked in on campus.

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You know, are we getting the player um in camp in the fall that we recruited or that we thought we recruited?

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And I've seen it go both ways.

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I've seen guys at the end of the year like I don't know, you're going to need a lot of work this summer to get ready to come in and help us.

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And guys put in the time and the effort and it happened.

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And I've seen other guys like, oh man, we went the wrong way, we had too many parties and too much late night Taco Bell, and you know they spend the first eight or nine weeks of the year trying to figure out how to get in shape and how to get it going again.

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Um, but, like, the biggest separator was just beginning fall practice and seeing who had who had played in the summer and who had spent time doing baseball activity and who took time off.

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Um, you know very evident, like right away, who used spent time doing baseball activity and who took time off.

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You know very evident, like right away, who used that time to not only work on their body but compete at a high level and compete against players that were, you know, better than them.

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Or you know some places where we recruited guys from, they had to go play against old men.

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You know, in the over 30 league, like you'll grow up real fast doing that.

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You'll grow up real fast, you'll get.

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You'll get.

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You'll grow up real fast on the baseball field.

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But you get a lot of life lessons from those guys too sitting around the dugout.

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But you know, in some places where we used to recruit guys, like that's all they had and you, unfortunately, you see guys that go the other way too.

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They hung up the bat, hung up the cleats, didn't throw, didn't play catch.

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And you know now you're just working from behind the eight ball.

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Because ultimately your goal when you get to school it's a little bit different if you're in a scholarship program because there's some resources committed to you, but that seems to be changing every day with the portal and everything else.

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But you know, especially like at the non-scholarship level, like your goal is, like is to try to make the team Um and from my experience in most places like it's, it's not a guarantee that just because you're there in the fall you're going to make the team Um.

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So kind of doing whatever you can do to put yourself in the best position to do that.

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You almost got to take it back to like you're a freshman in high school again.

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Like you're just trying to make it in the baseball program as a freshman.

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Like how can I do this?

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Like what's an aspect of my game that you know we can do?

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Or how can I differentiate myself from everybody else that's trying to do this?

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Like you have to kind of approach it with the same mindset.

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You're just trying to make it to spring and then see where we go from there.

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Well, you said, the strongest guy, pound for pound, ends up playing the most.

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What's a good in-season and off-season strength plan look like in?

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How early should high school players start building that habit?

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I think, as early as you can safely introduce yourself to the weight room you want to try to do that.

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There's got to be some guidance and need some functionality.

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I was listening to a strength coach the other day.

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I wish I wrote his name down, but it was a snippet.

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That was a snippet that I saw on social media.

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Um, and this talk was geared more towards younger kids.

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It was geared towards, like middle school kids, like just coming into freshman high school.

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But, um, you know, even if you have to start from like square one, where you're just doing body weight stuff pushups, sit-ups, you know, uh, dips, things like that, like that um, you know, the point he was making was like we asked kids to come in and do cleans and like they came bent over and touched their toes.

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Or, you know, we come in and ask guys, we come in and ask guys to do bench press, and they came and like, do their body weight right?

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Um, I think the most important thing is is to try to start somewhere.

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Like you have to start.

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Um, everybody's going to start from square one.

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I think a lot of times guys get nervous going in the weight room because they're like, oh man, these guys are in here and they're throwing up a ton of weight and they're doing this.

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I'm not ready to do that.

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Well, of course you're not.

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Those guys didn't start in the same place either.

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But really, for me, looking at it, it gets a little bit more position specific, like getting into college level.

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Pitchers are going to do different things, that position players and vice versa, and things like that.

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But especially for a high school player, like if you don't have anywhere to start, like a good program, that is what I consider to be holistic.

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You're, you're hitting your lower body a couple of days a week.

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You know, you're hitting your upper body about the same amount, like just trying to train all aspects of your body.

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Um, making sure that you're also.

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Um, it's not just the lifting component.

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That goes along with that, I think, is what a lot of people miss.

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Um, there's the eating right component.

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Um, I'm not saying necessarily you've got to be watching the back of the box for everything that you eat, but like, obviously, making smart choices.

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Like don't go to the gym and then go get two Big Macs, um, you know, you just kind of kind of wasted everything you did, um, but, um, you know, making sure that you're paying attention, you're putting the right things in your body and then getting the right amount of sleep.

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I think that's where a lot of high school kids miss the boat is just on sleep, even college guys, but it's fun.

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Everybody wants to hang out with their buddies late at night.

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Everybody wants to hang out playing the Xbox or, you know, the PlayStation or whatever.

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But the way that your body gets stronger is through rest and recovery and sleep.

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So, um, making sure that you're trying to get to bed at a decent hour, making sure that you're trying to get out of bed at a decent hour in the morning, get your day started.

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Make sure you eat breakfast.

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Um, that's another one that I see high school guys miss a lot is they don't eat properly.

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Um, you know they skip meals or they load up on a meal or two during the day and miss opportunities to continue to do that.

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So, um, I think the sooner that you can like sort of ingrain those habits, like you know, into your system or into your preparation, like, the better it's going to be, and I think a lot of that just has to deal with, like what your high school program is like.

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You know, I think about where I went to high school in central Ohio and a lot of still are a lot of good high school coaches in the area, but really a lot of good high school coaches.

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When I was playing high school baseball there, you know, you included, as a head coach, guys that had really well-structured programs and really laid things out.

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I was like this is what we're going to do to be successful and this is how we're going to have to do it.

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So, obviously, like, if you have the guidance to be able to do that, you know, awesome from your for your coaching staff.

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But I realized that somebody out there, you know, maybe listening to this in New Hampshire like we don't have any of that.

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You know how do we, how do we do?

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But that's the great thing about social media these days is there's plenty of resources out there.

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There's plenty of places, there's plenty of training facilities and personal trainers and stuff that's geared specifically towards baseball that you know.

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Some of them are going to ask for money to give you instruction or train you, which I understand because they're operating a business.

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But there's also plenty of other places out there that will, you know, hand you a free program, um, or hey, I'm interested in trying to learn a little bit more about what I can do specifically in the weight room become a better catcher or gain more flexibility in my hips and my knees.

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Um, and that's the great thing about the baseball community is, everybody shares, like, um, my dad was a.

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My dad was a football coach and I'm sure he would tell you the same thing, like, yeah, everybody shares in football too.

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But you know, from my experience, like watching football, it seems way more, way more guarded, uh, in terms of like tips and secrets.

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You know, um, where baseball guys like yeah, I'll tell you how I did it, here's exactly how I did it.

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Um, I hope you go do it to me next week, you know, cause this is how it works.

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Definitely.

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Well, you know I you hit on a lot of things there.

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Being a high school PE teacher, you know I would have kids in class and I'd be like I'd just come on.

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What time did you go to sleep?

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They're like two, three o'clock in the morning.

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Um, we did a simple thing called a pacer test, which is very easy for any kid you think in high school should be able to do, and that was usually the, the, the day that I had the least amount of kids in class because they would not come to school that day and or they would make up an excuse they couldn't do a simple pacer test.

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And you know it just blows my mind how kids will do things to avoid making themselves better rather than just trying to jump in and do it.

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And you know, that kind of jumps into my next question, kind of jumps into my next question.

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What are three things that high school athletes underestimate about the jump from high school to college baseball, both on and off the field uh, on the field.

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On the field, I would say right away, is just the level of competition.

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Um, you know, depending on where you went to school, if you're're a college player, you're, you're probably one of the top, you're in the top quarter of the players on your high school team, like, let alone probably in your region, and you're going to step into a program where that's everybody on your team.

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So, um, depending on whether or not you've been exposed to that, um, it's actually kind of interesting.

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I, when I coached travel ball for a couple of years like that was my scheduling philosophy was to always like schedule way above, like what I felt that our team was capable of potentially of playing Right, for two reasons One, you want them to get exposed to coaches, obviously and that's where coaches are, is they're watching the best players.

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But two, I also knew that a lot of our players that were going to come play for me at 16-year or 17-year level had maybe not played that great a competition at that point.

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So I needed them to understand what it's going to look like to fail.

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The sooner that I can get you to understand what failure looks like and how far you have to go to reach the goals that you want to get to, the easier this process becomes for you to get better.

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So I think number one on the field is probably just the level of competition.

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The other two things on the field, I think, are one, uh, just the mental game.

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How much more is involved?

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Um, being in the right place at the right time.

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Um, you know, being in the right position on the field, uh, understanding a little bit more in terms of being able to play like a team philosophy, especially like when it comes to defense and stuff.

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It's not like it's overly complicated, because it's not once you learn the system, but depending on where you're coming from.

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You know, I think when I was in high school we maybe had like two bunk coverages.

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Well, when I got to first week of college we had six, and then, you know, and then I think we had like four pickoffs off of that.

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You know what I mean.

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So if you're not, if you're not ready for that, or if you've not been exposed to that like and it's not like, it's a basic one, two, three go here Like there's timing involved and you got to make sure you know guy gets ahead of the runner if it's a wheel, this and that.

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So I think, just like being able to drink from the fire hose a little bit and play catch up on understanding like hey, you know, based on ability level in high school, whatever, like this is kind of what we were capable of doing.

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But we're going to ask you to do a lot more in terms of like understanding that you know it doesn't matter how good you are, if you can't understand and execute those things, you won't be on the field.

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You know you could be a 95 mile an hour guy out of the bullpen, but if I put you out there in the eighth inning on a one run game and guys on base and you don't understand what we've got going on from a pick situation or where you're going with a bunt that's hit to you, you're a liability, you're not an asset to me at that point.

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So I think that takes a long time for a lot of players to you know kind of catch up to pretty quickly.

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And then the third thing on the field, I think, is just how I just don't.

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I don't know if high school players understand just how structured their day is going to be, or like how disciplined and regimented that you need to probably make it for you to be successful.

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Um, especially like when you're in season, like everything is scheduled out, like from your classes to like when practices, to when the weight room is, and like, um, you know, the illusion of quote unquote free time, um to just hang out or like do whatever, like I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but a lot of that is just not, it's not as much as they're used to.

00:19:23.511 --> 00:19:40.461
So I think in a lot of cases, you know, some guys get to a point of trying to really question, having to ask themselves like, how much do I really like doing this Because I'm having to spend way more time doing the things that I need to do to get better.

00:19:40.461 --> 00:19:45.326
I'm spending way less more time doing other things that I'm passionate about.

00:19:45.326 --> 00:19:55.195
Started to have a question and an internal dialogue about opportunity costs.

00:19:55.195 --> 00:19:58.971
Like, how much do I really want to do this, especially early, because you know a lot of freshmen don't play early in a program.

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You know you're not really expected to.

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Um, you know I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but you know, in my opinion, if a college program, if there were a lot of guys being asked to play early, that's probably that's probably not a very good program or it hasn't been a very successful program, right, um, so I think I think a lot of that.

00:20:24.561 --> 00:20:27.511
That's the third thing I think is that my day is more structured.

00:20:27.511 --> 00:20:29.413
I have more things I'm responsible for.

00:20:29.413 --> 00:20:37.762
I'm doing a lot more practicing than I am playing baseball for the first time in my life, probably, so you know that.

00:20:37.762 --> 00:20:55.796
Then internal dialogue of like, how much do I really enjoy this amount of time just to be successful from an academic standpoint?

00:20:55.796 --> 00:20:56.337
Um, how much more reading?

00:20:56.337 --> 00:21:16.265
Um, I think you've you've seen as a teacher, we've all seen it, we've all seen guys and gals that seem to be able to coast and they're they're naturally smart, right, they don't really have to crack a book, they don't really have to study, like college for the first time can be the first time where they have to really get used to spending time in a book and reading or taking notes and writing.

00:21:17.972 --> 00:21:20.981
So I always say that I think I said it in thread.

00:21:20.981 --> 00:21:31.461
I said 50 percent of college being successful is showing up and being an lecturer and being engaged, and the only way you get that 50 percent is by doing the reading and doing the homework, which is the other 50 percent.

00:21:31.461 --> 00:21:38.224
That 50% is by doing the reading and doing the homework, which is the other 50%, because if you don't read and you don't understand what's being talked about, you can't make the connections that you need for the test or to retain the material.

00:21:38.224 --> 00:21:43.830
So I think that number one is just the amount of time academically.

00:21:43.830 --> 00:21:55.236
Two, the second thing I guess off the field is I also spoke to this kind of I spoke to this in a different thread.

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This was more geared towards, like players who are currently in college, but I made a point in there about protecting your inner circle and your inner peace.

00:22:02.830 --> 00:22:12.271
So, like, when you get to campus, you're going to meet so many different people and so many different activities and there are going to be so many different things that are pulling you in different directions.

00:22:12.271 --> 00:22:15.078
Right, like hey, let's.

00:22:15.078 --> 00:22:16.082
Like let's go do Greek.

00:22:16.082 --> 00:22:17.854
Like let's go and be in the fraternity.

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Or like let's go be in the sorority, or, you know, let's go join this club or that club or you know whatever's going on on campus.

00:22:24.380 --> 00:22:53.300
And um, I'm not saying that those things are not good for you, but if your goal is like to make your team, like those are things that are a drain on your time and your energy and, in a lot of instances, those people that you're making connections with and this is I don't, I don't say this maliciously, but they don't necessarily have your they're not looking out for your interests or have your best interest, for what your goals are, at the front of their mind, Right?

00:22:54.063 --> 00:23:12.790
Um, so I think, being able to like balance that, to like okay, how do I get the most out of my college experience while also making sure that I'm doing what I'm here to do, which is going to play my sport, I'm also going to get my degree and do really well, um, and then the third thing is just like being an adult, um, I.

00:23:12.790 --> 00:23:13.875
Then the third thing is just like being an adult.

00:23:13.875 --> 00:23:22.883
Um, I mean, quite honestly, having a lot more things on your plate from an adult standpoint of like, um, you know, going away to college might be the first time you get your own checking account.

00:23:22.883 --> 00:23:24.615
How do I balance my checkbook?

00:23:24.615 --> 00:23:26.636
Um, how do I do laundry?

00:23:26.636 --> 00:23:30.115
Um, you know, how do I?

00:23:30.115 --> 00:23:30.455
I?

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I put in the thread there about making sure that you get your car worked on before you go to school, like, hey, where do I take it?

00:23:36.795 --> 00:23:37.798
Where my oil is low?

00:23:37.798 --> 00:23:40.655
How can I change my own oil, how can I rotate my tires?

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Like how can I just do basic adult things that like you don't think about because mom and dad took care of them for you for so long?

00:23:52.730 --> 00:24:02.790
Um, there's like a lot of different dynamics there that everybody's trying to learn, like at the, at the, the, you know, the onset of being in a new place, around new people, and I think those are the three things, at least off the field, that probably like trip people up the most.

00:24:02.790 --> 00:24:08.583
Just, um, sustainable activities of daily living, like just surviving.

00:24:08.583 --> 00:24:16.257
And that's hilarious to think about because, um, you know, I have a newborn at home right now who was like literally that's what he's doing.

00:24:16.257 --> 00:24:18.592
He is eating and sleeping and he goes to the bathroom.

00:24:18.592 --> 00:24:20.396
Like those are activities of daily living.

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You don't think about that as like an 18 year old or a 19 year old.

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You're like I know how to do this Well, very quickly, like you can learn, like I don't know anything about how to operate in this real world outside of mom and dad's house.

00:24:31.297 --> 00:24:34.942
So how quickly can you get up to speed on that?

00:24:36.144 --> 00:24:36.846
Yes, definitely.

00:24:36.846 --> 00:24:39.719
Well, you know I you mentioned a lot of things.

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I mean, when some of those kids get away from their parents for the first time, they can get in with the wrong group of guys and it just they're experiencing partying to a crazy extent and it can really affect if you want to try to actually be someone who can play on the college level.

00:25:00.659 --> 00:25:22.688
But you know, I guess, going back to your recruiting experience, if you have a high school player that wants to play college baseball but he's not getting the attention, what are some things he can do to improve his chances beyond just what you're seeing now, where they're posting highlights on social media?

00:25:23.009 --> 00:25:35.422
My first thing that I would suggest that somebody does is that they get an honest third party evaluation of what somebody believes their skill level was.

00:25:35.422 --> 00:25:40.460
Um, somebody that doesn't have any sort of skin in the game.

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And the reason I say that is because I think I don't think.

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I think 95% of people not getting recruited is because they're targeting the wrong places.

00:25:51.236 --> 00:26:14.618
Um, I said this a long time ago, probably like four or five years ago, to a group and somebody reminded me of it, and I think it still fits relatively to a point here, and there's nothing wrong with this.

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You, you are the level that you're being recruited at.

00:26:15.682 --> 00:26:30.862
So you can think you're a Big Ten guy or think you're capable of being able to play in the Big Ten, but if the only schools that are recruiting you are in the OAC which great league, by the way, tons of talented players, tons of really great coaches then you're probably an OAC guy.

00:26:30.862 --> 00:26:43.243
So making sure that just first and foremost, you're targeting the right schools, that, I think, solves 95% of the problem.

00:26:43.243 --> 00:26:50.063
Second, I think, is making sure that you're being proactive about your outreach to coaches.

00:26:51.250 --> 00:26:53.439
Personal emails to me always got reviewed.

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Anything showed up in my inbox.

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It was personally addressed to me that didn't have 50 or 100 other coaches carbon copied on it, like I was going to at least take a look at it whenever you send me over and hopefully, like when you send those emails like you have done your research on school.

00:27:12.711 --> 00:27:19.017
Hey, the reason I'm contacting you is because you know I'm interested in studying.

00:27:19.017 --> 00:27:20.258
You know accounting.

00:27:20.258 --> 00:27:22.319
You guys have a great accounting program.

00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:34.432
Hopefully, drop two or three things in there that show me you did the research on the accounting program and here's why I in in the baseball program and I'd like to have a bigger conversation about that.

00:27:34.432 --> 00:27:39.971
Um, I think a lot of times now everybody's trying to do things quickly.

00:27:39.971 --> 00:27:45.189
Um, I hadn't heard anybody using chat GPT yet to write the recruiting emails.

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I'm sure it's happening, um, but, but, uh, but, like that was the easiest way to get something deleted was to have 50 or 60 other coaches carbon copied on it, or blind carbon copied on it, or to have our name misspelled or have my name wrong.

00:28:02.866 --> 00:28:12.874
I get that people make mistakes, but it's one of those things where it only takes a couple seconds to make sure that you get it right and so that the outreach that you're doing is genuine.

00:28:15.115 --> 00:28:25.019
And then the third this is going to sound really simple and it's going to sound really dumb at the same time is just be a dude when you get on the field and you get in front of people.

00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:26.799
Be the best guy in the game.

00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.101
Be the best guy on the field in the game at a given time.

00:28:30.101 --> 00:28:31.902
Be the best guy in the tournament.

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Be the best guy on the field in the game at a given time.

00:28:33.442 --> 00:28:34.123
Be the best guy in the tournament.

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You know, um, I think nowadays, like everybody's so caught up in the environment of like we have to train and we have to do all these things.

00:28:43.286 --> 00:28:45.788
We got to develop our arm below and exit below.

00:28:45.788 --> 00:29:10.711
We got to train for all these things and training's great, and I'm not I'm not knocking training, because at some point it's all relevant and it all makes sense and guys have to improve their skills and you can make those environments competitive, but at some point you have to be able to step between the lines in a game that matters and be able to execute and help your team either score runs or prevent runs right, because that's what this game is score runs or prevent runs.

00:29:10.711 --> 00:29:17.898
So the sooner that you can figure out, the sooner you can figure out the best way that you're going to help your team.

00:29:17.898 --> 00:29:24.885
Do that on a daily basis and prove that you're the best guy, either in your league or in the air, or whatever.

00:29:25.807 --> 00:29:27.008
Your name will start to spread.

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People will start to pay attention.

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People will start to pay attention.

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You'll start to see more opportunities come your way.

00:29:34.602 --> 00:29:40.751
And that's where it goes back to.

00:29:40.751 --> 00:29:42.055
The first point is knowing where you fit.

00:29:42.055 --> 00:29:47.544
It may not be the opportunities you want, but at some point, here's the opportunities you're presented with.

00:29:47.544 --> 00:29:53.751
The other opportunity or the other option is to not play.

00:29:53.751 --> 00:29:55.493
So here's your options to play or here's not.

00:29:55.493 --> 00:29:56.594
You decide at that point.

00:29:57.015 --> 00:30:04.059
And if you're good enough and you get that playing time there, the way the transfer portal is A friend of mine.

00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:11.746
this morning talking to a friend of mine, a school coach at the Division III level, this morning, I was like I don't know how you do the portal man?

00:30:11.746 --> 00:30:17.719
He goes yeah, it's the wild, wild west, but we make it work.

00:30:17.719 --> 00:30:20.234
I said good on you, man.

00:30:20.234 --> 00:30:23.758
I said I don't know how I would have dealt with that a couple years ago.

00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.433
Yeah, do you hate losing, or?

00:30:26.474 --> 00:30:28.554
love winning, I think, just for me.

00:30:28.554 --> 00:30:38.740
I've always been somebody that I feel like prepares the right way, almost over prepared, so I'm not out here saying that.

00:30:38.740 --> 00:30:41.257
I was trying to think about how to phrase this.

00:30:41.257 --> 00:30:46.137
I don't like the idea that somebody prepared as much or more than me and then beat me.

00:30:46.137 --> 00:30:52.429
Yeah, or or in in in a different light, did less than that and beat me.

00:30:52.429 --> 00:31:02.969
Um, my thing is you do the right things and you prepare hard and you take care of your body and you you know, do everything you're supposed to do, like you should win, or at least find a way to win.

00:31:02.989 --> 00:31:08.184
Um, also, because the other reason is because winning doesn't.

00:31:08.184 --> 00:31:08.726
There's.

00:31:08.726 --> 00:31:11.702
There's times where stretches when you're winning, it doesn't teach you anything.

00:31:11.702 --> 00:31:22.720
You know you learn more from losing than you do from winning.

00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:40.924
Depending on your league, depending on the competition that you play, things like that, like you may win 10 games in a row and, from a coaching perspective, you may recognize that there's like two or three things that your team really needs to work on that you're just not going to get tested on right Until you play somebody else.

00:31:41.567 --> 00:31:56.693
And I think that's the hard part about it is you could depending on what, depending on how good you are in your league, like you could run through your league and, hey, here's two or three things that we're really not good at, but nobody's capable of of pressing us on this.

00:31:56.693 --> 00:32:14.563
Basically, um, so now we're going to be in a situation where it really matters you know, the tournament or conference tournament or whatever and you know we're gonna have to try to figure out how to navigate this and unfortunately, like it's with our season on the line, have to try to figure out how to navigate this and, unfortunately, like it's with our season on the line.

00:32:14.563 --> 00:32:21.025
So, like, how do you go about like trying to create that urgency as a coach, knowing that you're not getting it in a game?

00:32:21.025 --> 00:32:30.387
How do you create that urgency and practice to like practice and improve and work on these things, knowing that you're gonna have to do it later and get the buy-in from your kids?

00:32:30.387 --> 00:32:36.165
You know um, or get your kids to understand it's like I'm not talking bad about our opponents.

00:32:36.165 --> 00:32:37.147
That's not what we're doing.

00:32:37.950 --> 00:32:47.608
What I'm trying to get you to understand is we're gonna have to play a much better brand of baseball to achieve where we want to go, and right now we're not being forced to do some of those things.

00:32:47.608 --> 00:32:57.468
So how do you like get your team to compete against themselves to I guess is kind of what I'm getting at to like hold that standard and do those things?

00:32:57.468 --> 00:33:00.201
I don't think you always get that when you're winning.

00:33:00.201 --> 00:33:02.367
You get more of that urgency when you lose.

00:33:02.367 --> 00:33:04.903
So I think for me, that's why I would say I hate losing.

00:33:04.903 --> 00:33:06.807
More Makes total sense.

00:33:07.709 --> 00:33:23.510
Well, hey, to finish up, everybody has different influences on the way they play the game and the way they coach the game, and talk about the influence that your dad had on you as a player and a coach.

00:33:26.055 --> 00:33:40.108
Man, it's really funny and I think you'll laugh at this because you know my dad, um, my dad didn't want me, my dad didn't want me to coach.

00:33:40.108 --> 00:33:48.553
It was like it was the funniest thing growing up, um, and I don't think it was because he legitimately didn't want me to do it.

00:33:48.553 --> 00:33:54.665
He just kind of knew he had been a teacher and he had been a coach and he knew some of the things that went along with it.

00:33:54.665 --> 00:33:55.667
You know what I mean.

00:33:55.667 --> 00:34:03.983
And said if you can avoid having to deal with some of those things, like, it'll make your life a little bit less stressful, you know, um.

00:34:03.983 --> 00:34:24.389
But I think I think, like, as I grew up and time kind of went along and you know I started doing some things, I think he kind of realized that, hey, like this is, you know, he could be pretty good at this, he could be okay at it, um, and if that's what he wants to do, then I'll do the best I can to support him.

00:34:24.389 --> 00:34:29.344
Um, you know how he influenced me.

00:34:29.344 --> 00:34:32.148
I guess directly is his preparation.

00:34:32.148 --> 00:34:35.134
Um, you know he's one of the most.

00:34:35.134 --> 00:34:42.501
He was one of the most detailed guys I'd ever seen, um, putting together a practice plan, taking notes.

00:34:42.501 --> 00:35:02.509
Um, you know, it was one of the things, it's one of the things kind of cleaning up his things here after he passed and having to go through some of that stuff which was kind of, you know, good for my soul in a way, but just it just a reinforcing reminder of just how prepared this guy was.

00:35:02.509 --> 00:35:09.329
You know, there is never an excuse in his mind to not be prepared for something.

00:35:09.329 --> 00:35:14.820
Your, your kid, basically your kid should never see something like first time in a game.

00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:20.681
And you know, hey, we haven't discussed this because if that's the case, then I haven't done my job.

00:35:22.001 --> 00:35:41.014
Um, I think also just in terms of, um, you know, kind of showing, uh, just how you love kids, like how to love kids, how to take care of them, and understanding that, like, not every kid's the same.

00:35:41.014 --> 00:35:42.661
Everybody needs something a little different.

00:35:42.661 --> 00:35:46.989
Um, the button that you push with Johnny doesn't work with Frankie.

00:35:46.989 --> 00:35:51.304
Um, you know how to approach having conversations.

00:35:51.304 --> 00:35:57.563
Uh, the right way, how to make sure that you reach everybody, cause that's your job is.

00:35:57.563 --> 00:36:02.012
You know it's not to make the kids fit what you're doing.

00:36:02.012 --> 00:36:07.523
You got to figure out how to get them to understand what you're trying to accomplish and, if it doesn't make sense.

00:36:07.523 --> 00:36:10.871
Ask questions, like you know.

00:36:10.871 --> 00:36:12.476
Ask them like what am I saying?

00:36:12.476 --> 00:36:19.800
That's not resonating, or how can I make this make more sense to you, because I'm not doing my job if I don't find a way for you to get it?

00:36:21.403 --> 00:36:37.492
Um, so, you know, I think kind of in terms of that and um, yeah, I mean, being a coach's kid is just a different life in general.

00:36:37.492 --> 00:36:44.246
Like I try to explain to people and I think it's hard to explain unless you've done it you just grow.

00:36:44.246 --> 00:36:45.389
You just grow up different.

00:36:45.389 --> 00:36:47.943
Like it's cool, it's cool as hell.

00:36:47.943 --> 00:36:53.106
Like you get to do a lot of cool things, go places and be in places that other people don't get to.

00:36:53.106 --> 00:36:54.688
Like you get to do a lot of cool things, go places and be in places that other people don't get to.

00:36:54.867 --> 00:37:18.443
And you know, when you're a little guy, like you know, go to practice and you know you've got, you know 75 or 85, like older brothers, you know you're running around the locker room and playing and this and that, and um, locker room and playing and this and that and um, you know.

00:37:18.443 --> 00:37:27.864
So I think, from that standpoint, like just getting to be around, just getting to be around him, you know, for as long as I was around him, um was really really cool and really really unique.

00:37:27.864 --> 00:37:41.585
And um, the other part of that is you're exposed to so many other good people Um, you know, I think about.

00:37:41.585 --> 00:37:56.293
I think about, especially, like in Dublin, the staffs that he was part of when he was in Dublin, not just on the football side, but also just teaching, like as teaching partners, like so many great people that you know.

00:37:56.813 --> 00:38:15.739
When you're younger you don't understand, but as you get older and you get to know these people, it's like I'm intentionally like trying to place you around good people that are going to steer you in the right direction, like that should be your goal as a coach for your players, like that should be your goal as a coach for your players.

00:38:15.739 --> 00:38:21.023
I'm going to intentionally try to put as many good people or as many positive people and influences around you and around our team as we can, so we can be the best we can be.

00:38:21.023 --> 00:38:32.132
If you have the people right, you can kind of afford to be wrong on some other things, but if you don't have the people right, then nothing's going to work.

00:38:32.132 --> 00:38:35.163
So get the right people in your camp?

00:38:35.182 --> 00:38:36.385
yes, definitely, he was.

00:38:36.385 --> 00:38:45.692
My very first ever experience of being a coach was it was fall and I I volunteered to be a at kaufman, to be a football coach.

00:38:45.692 --> 00:38:49.746
And I just remember his you.

00:38:49.746 --> 00:38:54.414
He had this booming voice, a funny story.

00:38:54.414 --> 00:39:02.478
I don't know if you've ever heard this, but he says I'm going to put a dollar in this box Every time I cuss.

00:39:02.478 --> 00:39:03.898
I got to put a dollar, I'm going to stop.

00:39:03.898 --> 00:39:08.670
And then, as he goes, I quit, I'm not doing that, I can't do that.

00:39:08.670 --> 00:39:09.652
I'm telling Matt I can't do that.

00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.583
And then the other thing that really jumped out to me we had a game and we're playing somewhere.

00:39:16.583 --> 00:39:32.440
It's at the end of the season and it is clearly the coldest game of the season and I'm brand new to the coaching scene and he's got everything he's trying to deal with because he's he's one of the main varsity coaches.

00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.507
He's, you know, working with the line and everything.

00:39:35.507 --> 00:39:44.409
And he took time to come down and he walks up to me and he goes are you, are you prepared for this thing?

00:39:44.409 --> 00:39:46.755
I said, yeah, I believe I am.

00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.985
And he goes you're not prepared.

00:39:48.985 --> 00:39:49.347
What do you mean?

00:39:49.347 --> 00:39:51.693
He goes look at you, you're gonna freeze.

00:39:51.693 --> 00:39:52.094
You're not prepared.

00:39:52.094 --> 00:39:52.536
What do you mean?

00:39:52.536 --> 00:39:54.784
He goes look at you, you're going to freeze You're, you're not ready to go.

00:39:54.784 --> 00:40:11.793
And he like took the car and gave me some clothes for the game, you know, and we already had stuff, but I would have literally been freezing the whole entire game if it wasn't for your dad, and he was just so much fun for me just to be around.

00:40:11.793 --> 00:40:13.786
You know, I didn't have to say anything.

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I just I just loved to listen to him and he, he was such a great guy and I imagine you, being his son, you you had such a great experience with him and and, uh, you know, he, he was such a special guy here in Dublin and I I really appreciate you taking the time to talk about it.

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It's been hard, once, you know, trying to process everything with him, and I think that was what made me feel good is what made me feel good is how many people reached out Cause I um and say, hey, your dad meant a lot to me or you meant a lot to us and, um, you know, I don't know for sure, but I would gather, just based on conversations, that I think you know he's like everybody when you're you know you're older and you're retired and this is just this is just like being a man stuff.

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Right, you're thinking about legacy, or like, did I reach the people that I thought I reached, or did I make a difference with the people that I thought I wanted to, or that I could make a difference with?

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And kind of going through that entire process and hearing from a lot of different people, like kind of reinforce that you know, you know 10 times over that like, yeah, like you, you did good dad, you did good old man without a doubt.

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Um, he was just such a great guy and, and, to see him, if we would have a PE meeting and he would get in there with the other teachers, he'd start telling stories, and I mean everybody, we would just be in tears laughing, I, you know, those are some of the things I'll always remember.

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You know, he was just such a good guy and and he, he made you laugh, but he spoke the truth, which he was honest, and that's what even made it better and I appreciate, you know I, I, I wanted to put that in at the end there and I hope you were okay with that, and um, but you know well, yeah, no, you're taking the time out of your day, you're, you're on a run break right now and, uh, you know, I, I appreciate you taking the time to do this on short notice and once again, it's Brian Warren.

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Um, I'm a listener.

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There's a lot of, a lot of coaches that I'm familiar with you know that have been on the program, so if you're out there in the Twitter sphere, the X sphere give it a download.

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There's a lot of, a lot of good coaches, a lot of good information, um, a lot of good stories, especially if you're a central Ohio guy.

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So check it out, thanks.

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Coach.

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Special thanks to Brian Warning.

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