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Today on Baseball Coaches Unplugged.
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Are college coaches getting the player they thought they recruited?
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Did they take care of their bodies?
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Did they work on their game and compete at the highest level and hit the weight room over the summer, or did they do the opposite and spend too much time partying?
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Former college recruiting coordinator at Teal and Lake Erie College, brian Warning.
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Coordinator at Teal and Lake Erie College.
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Brian Warning has seen what happens when players commit to being prepared for college baseball and what takes place when they don't.
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Hello and welcome to the show.
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I'm Coach Ken Carpenter and I'm excited to talk to Brian Boring today, warning today about what he expected from players before they arrived on campus and how they can get themselves ready to become a college baseball player.
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Now let's get to my interview with former college recruiting coordinator, brian Warning.
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Coach, thanks for taking time to be on Baseball Coaches Unplugged.
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I appreciate you having me Coach.
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You caught my attention.
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You know we follow each other on X and you put out a thread that I think could be very helpful to a lot of people players, parents, high school coaches and you know it was a strong statement.
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You said the summer is the longest window you have to change your game and what are the biggest signs of a player who has used or wasted that time?
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Oh boy, they show up pretty quickly.
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You know, it was really kind of weird.
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I was sitting, I was thinking about it and you see a lot of content on x and other places and social media and it always seems like we're talking to a group.
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Um, you know, you're talking to your sophomores.
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They're going to be juniors.
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You know here's what you should be doing to get ready and here's what you should be doing the summer, before your senior year.
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So you get recruited.
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Well, once you get recruited, it seems like we stopped talking about those guys.
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Right, they still need guidance.
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They need as much guidance as anybody else, and I started thinking you know it's almost August here what are some things that they could be doing to make their life a little bit easier or at least feel a little bit more prepared, cause, um, I remember when I moved into school you know I wasn't across the country but I was three and a half hours away from home and didn't know anybody and um trying to deal with that transition, plus just the transition of being a college athlete, and what are some things that you can do to help out?
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But, to kind of answer your question, I thought about it and I thought about the calendar and be honest, I thought about it more from a Division III perspective because that's where a majority of my career was as a player, as a coach, and obviously Division II and Division I, just as staff, you have more time with your players.
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You're able to run individuals and you have more time.
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You have just more practices in general and really, really, between the end of your, between the end of your fall season whenever your fall season is to to winter break is about seven or eight weeks.
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In most places you have about seven or eight weeks when the season gets back up and going again before you play a game.
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Some places you have less than that, you know.
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So that summer period, from when school gets out in late May to now is 15, 16 weeks and you want to see players and you want to see athletes take that time and utilize it wisely.
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Like you know, you would see guys or recruit guys at the end of the year, like just physically, like seeing the body changes like, um, did it look like this guy went to the weight room?
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Um, you know.
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Did it look like this guy ate well?
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Did it look like he took care of his body, like when he checked in on campus.
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You know, are we getting the player um in camp in the fall that we recruited or that we thought we recruited?
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And I've seen it go both ways.
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I've seen guys at the end of the year like I don't know, you're going to need a lot of work this summer to get ready to come in and help us.
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And guys put in the time and the effort and it happened.
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And I've seen other guys like, oh man, we went the wrong way, we had too many parties and too much late night Taco Bell, and you know they spend the first eight or nine weeks of the year trying to figure out how to get in shape and how to get it going again.
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Um, but, like, the biggest separator was just beginning fall practice and seeing who had who had played in the summer and who had spent time doing baseball activity and who took time off.
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Um, you know very evident, like right away, who used spent time doing baseball activity and who took time off.
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You know very evident, like right away, who used that time to not only work on their body but compete at a high level and compete against players that were, you know, better than them.
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Or you know some places where we recruited guys from, they had to go play against old men.
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You know, in the over 30 league, like you'll grow up real fast doing that.
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You'll grow up real fast, you'll get.
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You'll get.
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You'll grow up real fast on the baseball field.
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But you get a lot of life lessons from those guys too sitting around the dugout.
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But you know, in some places where we used to recruit guys, like that's all they had and you, unfortunately, you see guys that go the other way too.
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They hung up the bat, hung up the cleats, didn't throw, didn't play catch.
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And you know now you're just working from behind the eight ball.
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Because ultimately your goal when you get to school it's a little bit different if you're in a scholarship program because there's some resources committed to you, but that seems to be changing every day with the portal and everything else.
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But you know, especially like at the non-scholarship level, like your goal is, like is to try to make the team Um and from my experience in most places like it's, it's not a guarantee that just because you're there in the fall you're going to make the team Um.
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So kind of doing whatever you can do to put yourself in the best position to do that.
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You almost got to take it back to like you're a freshman in high school again.
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Like you're just trying to make it in the baseball program as a freshman.
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Like how can I do this?
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Like what's an aspect of my game that you know we can do?
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Or how can I differentiate myself from everybody else that's trying to do this?
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Like you have to kind of approach it with the same mindset.
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You're just trying to make it to spring and then see where we go from there.
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Well, you said, the strongest guy, pound for pound, ends up playing the most.
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What's a good in-season and off-season strength plan look like in?
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How early should high school players start building that habit?
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I think, as early as you can safely introduce yourself to the weight room you want to try to do that.
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There's got to be some guidance and need some functionality.
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I was listening to a strength coach the other day.
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I wish I wrote his name down, but it was a snippet.
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That was a snippet that I saw on social media.
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Um, and this talk was geared more towards younger kids.
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It was geared towards, like middle school kids, like just coming into freshman high school.
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But, um, you know, even if you have to start from like square one, where you're just doing body weight stuff pushups, sit-ups, you know, uh, dips, things like that, like that um, you know, the point he was making was like we asked kids to come in and do cleans and like they came bent over and touched their toes.
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Or, you know, we come in and ask guys, we come in and ask guys to do bench press, and they came and like, do their body weight right?
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Um, I think the most important thing is is to try to start somewhere.
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Like you have to start.
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Um, everybody's going to start from square one.
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I think a lot of times guys get nervous going in the weight room because they're like, oh man, these guys are in here and they're throwing up a ton of weight and they're doing this.
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I'm not ready to do that.
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Well, of course you're not.
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Those guys didn't start in the same place either.
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But really, for me, looking at it, it gets a little bit more position specific, like getting into college level.
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Pitchers are going to do different things, that position players and vice versa, and things like that.
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But especially for a high school player, like if you don't have anywhere to start, like a good program, that is what I consider to be holistic.
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You're, you're hitting your lower body a couple of days a week.
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You know, you're hitting your upper body about the same amount, like just trying to train all aspects of your body.
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Um, making sure that you're also.
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Um, it's not just the lifting component.
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That goes along with that, I think, is what a lot of people miss.
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Um, there's the eating right component.
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Um, I'm not saying necessarily you've got to be watching the back of the box for everything that you eat, but like, obviously, making smart choices.
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Like don't go to the gym and then go get two Big Macs, um, you know, you just kind of kind of wasted everything you did, um, but, um, you know, making sure that you're paying attention, you're putting the right things in your body and then getting the right amount of sleep.
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I think that's where a lot of high school kids miss the boat is just on sleep, even college guys, but it's fun.
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Everybody wants to hang out with their buddies late at night.
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Everybody wants to hang out playing the Xbox or, you know, the PlayStation or whatever.
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But the way that your body gets stronger is through rest and recovery and sleep.
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So, um, making sure that you're trying to get to bed at a decent hour, making sure that you're trying to get out of bed at a decent hour in the morning, get your day started.
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Make sure you eat breakfast.
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Um, that's another one that I see high school guys miss a lot is they don't eat properly.
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Um, you know they skip meals or they load up on a meal or two during the day and miss opportunities to continue to do that.
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So, um, I think the sooner that you can like sort of ingrain those habits, like you know, into your system or into your preparation, like, the better it's going to be, and I think a lot of that just has to deal with, like what your high school program is like.
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You know, I think about where I went to high school in central Ohio and a lot of still are a lot of good high school coaches in the area, but really a lot of good high school coaches.
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When I was playing high school baseball there, you know, you included, as a head coach, guys that had really well-structured programs and really laid things out.
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I was like this is what we're going to do to be successful and this is how we're going to have to do it.
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So, obviously, like, if you have the guidance to be able to do that, you know, awesome from your for your coaching staff.
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But I realized that somebody out there, you know, maybe listening to this in New Hampshire like we don't have any of that.
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You know how do we, how do we do?
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But that's the great thing about social media these days is there's plenty of resources out there.
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There's plenty of places, there's plenty of training facilities and personal trainers and stuff that's geared specifically towards baseball that you know.
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Some of them are going to ask for money to give you instruction or train you, which I understand because they're operating a business.
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But there's also plenty of other places out there that will, you know, hand you a free program, um, or hey, I'm interested in trying to learn a little bit more about what I can do specifically in the weight room become a better catcher or gain more flexibility in my hips and my knees.
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Um, and that's the great thing about the baseball community is, everybody shares, like, um, my dad was a.
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My dad was a football coach and I'm sure he would tell you the same thing, like, yeah, everybody shares in football too.
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But you know, from my experience, like watching football, it seems way more, way more guarded, uh, in terms of like tips and secrets.
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You know, um, where baseball guys like yeah, I'll tell you how I did it, here's exactly how I did it.
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Um, I hope you go do it to me next week, you know, cause this is how it works.
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Definitely.
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Well, you know I you hit on a lot of things there.
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Being a high school PE teacher, you know I would have kids in class and I'd be like I'd just come on.
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What time did you go to sleep?
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They're like two, three o'clock in the morning.
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Um, we did a simple thing called a pacer test, which is very easy for any kid you think in high school should be able to do, and that was usually the, the, the day that I had the least amount of kids in class because they would not come to school that day and or they would make up an excuse they couldn't do a simple pacer test.
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And you know it just blows my mind how kids will do things to avoid making themselves better rather than just trying to jump in and do it.
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And you know, that kind of jumps into my next question, kind of jumps into my next question.
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What are three things that high school athletes underestimate about the jump from high school to college baseball, both on and off the field uh, on the field.
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On the field, I would say right away, is just the level of competition.
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Um, you know, depending on where you went to school, if you're're a college player, you're, you're probably one of the top, you're in the top quarter of the players on your high school team, like, let alone probably in your region, and you're going to step into a program where that's everybody on your team.
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So, um, depending on whether or not you've been exposed to that, um, it's actually kind of interesting.
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I, when I coached travel ball for a couple of years like that was my scheduling philosophy was to always like schedule way above, like what I felt that our team was capable of potentially of playing Right, for two reasons One, you want them to get exposed to coaches, obviously and that's where coaches are, is they're watching the best players.
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But two, I also knew that a lot of our players that were going to come play for me at 16-year or 17-year level had maybe not played that great a competition at that point.
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So I needed them to understand what it's going to look like to fail.
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The sooner that I can get you to understand what failure looks like and how far you have to go to reach the goals that you want to get to, the easier this process becomes for you to get better.
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So I think number one on the field is probably just the level of competition.
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The other two things on the field, I think, are one, uh, just the mental game.
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How much more is involved?
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Um, being in the right place at the right time.
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Um, you know, being in the right position on the field, uh, understanding a little bit more in terms of being able to play like a team philosophy, especially like when it comes to defense and stuff.
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It's not like it's overly complicated, because it's not once you learn the system, but depending on where you're coming from.
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You know, I think when I was in high school we maybe had like two bunk coverages.
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Well, when I got to first week of college we had six, and then, you know, and then I think we had like four pickoffs off of that.
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You know what I mean.
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So if you're not, if you're not ready for that, or if you've not been exposed to that like and it's not like, it's a basic one, two, three go here Like there's timing involved and you got to make sure you know guy gets ahead of the runner if it's a wheel, this and that.
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So I think, just like being able to drink from the fire hose a little bit and play catch up on understanding like hey, you know, based on ability level in high school, whatever, like this is kind of what we were capable of doing.
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But we're going to ask you to do a lot more in terms of like understanding that you know it doesn't matter how good you are, if you can't understand and execute those things, you won't be on the field.
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You know you could be a 95 mile an hour guy out of the bullpen, but if I put you out there in the eighth inning on a one run game and guys on base and you don't understand what we've got going on from a pick situation or where you're going with a bunt that's hit to you, you're a liability, you're not an asset to me at that point.
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So I think that takes a long time for a lot of players to you know kind of catch up to pretty quickly.
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And then the third thing on the field, I think, is just how I just don't.
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I don't know if high school players understand just how structured their day is going to be, or like how disciplined and regimented that you need to probably make it for you to be successful.
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Um, especially like when you're in season, like everything is scheduled out, like from your classes to like when practices, to when the weight room is, and like, um, you know, the illusion of quote unquote free time, um to just hang out or like do whatever, like I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but a lot of that is just not, it's not as much as they're used to.
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So I think in a lot of cases, you know, some guys get to a point of trying to really question, having to ask themselves like, how much do I really like doing this Because I'm having to spend way more time doing the things that I need to do to get better.
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I'm spending way less more time doing other things that I'm passionate about.
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Started to have a question and an internal dialogue about opportunity costs.
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Like, how much do I really want to do this, especially early, because you know a lot of freshmen don't play early in a program.
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You know you're not really expected to.
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Um, you know I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but you know, in my opinion, if a college program, if there were a lot of guys being asked to play early, that's probably that's probably not a very good program or it hasn't been a very successful program, right, um, so I think I think a lot of that.
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That's the third thing I think is that my day is more structured.
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I have more things I'm responsible for.
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I'm doing a lot more practicing than I am playing baseball for the first time in my life, probably, so you know that.
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Then internal dialogue of like, how much do I really enjoy this amount of time just to be successful from an academic standpoint?
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Um, how much more reading?
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Um, I think you've you've seen as a teacher, we've all seen it, we've all seen guys and gals that seem to be able to coast and they're they're naturally smart, right, they don't really have to crack a book, they don't really have to study, like college for the first time can be the first time where they have to really get used to spending time in a book and reading or taking notes and writing.
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So I always say that I think I said it in thread.
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I said 50 percent of college being successful is showing up and being an lecturer and being engaged, and the only way you get that 50 percent is by doing the reading and doing the homework, which is the other 50 percent.
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That 50% is by doing the reading and doing the homework, which is the other 50%, because if you don't read and you don't understand what's being talked about, you can't make the connections that you need for the test or to retain the material.
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So I think that number one is just the amount of time academically.
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Two, the second thing I guess off the field is I also spoke to this kind of I spoke to this in a different thread.
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This was more geared towards, like players who are currently in college, but I made a point in there about protecting your inner circle and your inner peace.
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So, like, when you get to campus, you're going to meet so many different people and so many different activities and there are going to be so many different things that are pulling you in different directions.
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Right, like hey, let's.
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Like let's go do Greek.
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Like let's go and be in the fraternity.
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Or like let's go be in the sorority, or, you know, let's go join this club or that club or you know whatever's going on on campus.
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And um, I'm not saying that those things are not good for you, but if your goal is like to make your team, like those are things that are a drain on your time and your energy and, in a lot of instances, those people that you're making connections with and this is I don't, I don't say this maliciously, but they don't necessarily have your they're not looking out for your interests or have your best interest, for what your goals are, at the front of their mind, Right?
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Um, so I think, being able to like balance that, to like okay, how do I get the most out of my college experience while also making sure that I'm doing what I'm here to do, which is going to play my sport, I'm also going to get my degree and do really well, um, and then the third thing is just like being an adult, um, I.
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Then the third thing is just like being an adult.
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Um, I mean, quite honestly, having a lot more things on your plate from an adult standpoint of like, um, you know, going away to college might be the first time you get your own checking account.
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How do I balance my checkbook?
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Um, how do I do laundry?
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Um, you know, how do I?
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I?
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I put in the thread there about making sure that you get your car worked on before you go to school, like, hey, where do I take it?
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Where my oil is low?
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How can I change my own oil, how can I rotate my tires?
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Like how can I just do basic adult things that like you don't think about because mom and dad took care of them for you for so long?
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Um, there's like a lot of different dynamics there that everybody's trying to learn, like at the, at the, the, you know, the onset of being in a new place, around new people, and I think those are the three things, at least off the field, that probably like trip people up the most.
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Just, um, sustainable activities of daily living, like just surviving.
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And that's hilarious to think about because, um, you know, I have a newborn at home right now who was like literally that's what he's doing.
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He is eating and sleeping and he goes to the bathroom.
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Like those are activities of daily living.
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You don't think about that as like an 18 year old or a 19 year old.
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You're like I know how to do this Well, very quickly, like you can learn, like I don't know anything about how to operate in this real world outside of mom and dad's house.
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So how quickly can you get up to speed on that?
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Yes, definitely.
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Well, you know I you mentioned a lot of things.
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I mean, when some of those kids get away from their parents for the first time, they can get in with the wrong group of guys and it just they're experiencing partying to a crazy extent and it can really affect if you want to try to actually be someone who can play on the college level.
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But you know, I guess, going back to your recruiting experience, if you have a high school player that wants to play college baseball but he's not getting the attention, what are some things he can do to improve his chances beyond just what you're seeing now, where they're posting highlights on social media?
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My first thing that I would suggest that somebody does is that they get an honest third party evaluation of what somebody believes their skill level was.
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Um, somebody that doesn't have any sort of skin in the game.
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And the reason I say that is because I think I don't think.
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I think 95% of people not getting recruited is because they're targeting the wrong places.
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Um, I said this a long time ago, probably like four or five years ago, to a group and somebody reminded me of it, and I think it still fits relatively to a point here, and there's nothing wrong with this.
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You, you are the level that you're being recruited at.
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So you can think you're a Big Ten guy or think you're capable of being able to play in the Big Ten, but if the only schools that are recruiting you are in the OAC which great league, by the way, tons of talented players, tons of really great coaches then you're probably an OAC guy.
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So making sure that just first and foremost, you're targeting the right schools, that, I think, solves 95% of the problem.
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Second, I think, is making sure that you're being proactive about your outreach to coaches.
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Personal emails to me always got reviewed.
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Anything showed up in my inbox.
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It was personally addressed to me that didn't have 50 or 100 other coaches carbon copied on it, like I was going to at least take a look at it whenever you send me over and hopefully, like when you send those emails like you have done your research on school.
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Hey, the reason I'm contacting you is because you know I'm interested in studying.
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You know accounting.
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You guys have a great accounting program.
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Hopefully, drop two or three things in there that show me you did the research on the accounting program and here's why I in in the baseball program and I'd like to have a bigger conversation about that.
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Um, I think a lot of times now everybody's trying to do things quickly.
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Um, I hadn't heard anybody using chat GPT yet to write the recruiting emails.
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I'm sure it's happening, um, but, but, uh, but, like that was the easiest way to get something deleted was to have 50 or 60 other coaches carbon copied on it, or blind carbon copied on it, or to have our name misspelled or have my name wrong.
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I get that people make mistakes, but it's one of those things where it only takes a couple seconds to make sure that you get it right and so that the outreach that you're doing is genuine.
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And then the third this is going to sound really simple and it's going to sound really dumb at the same time is just be a dude when you get on the field and you get in front of people.
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Be the best guy in the game.
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Be the best guy on the field in the game at a given time.